Comments on: Keyword Density Myth – Find the Bonsai Trees http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/ Blog about Search Engine Optimization and Internet marketing Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:39:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Shell Harris http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-2604 Shell Harris Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:13:17 +0000 http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-2604 Black Shark, I would have to say internal and external links combined. If it isn't on the page very often, then there must be a number of high quality links pointing to it. Black Shark, I would have to say internal and external links combined. If it isn’t on the page very often, then there must be a number of high quality links pointing to it.

]]> By: Black Shark Media http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-2603 Black Shark Media Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:29:12 +0000 http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-2603 I agree, in my experience, I've seen top 10 sites that didn't have even not enough words in page as sites on the second pages, not even many links or pages, but they are on the top 10 from about 2.000.000 pages. Any ideas about what could cause the boost and the top positioning for that pages? I agree, in my experience, I’ve seen top 10 sites that didn’t have even not enough words in page as sites on the second pages, not even many links or pages, but they are on the top 10 from about 2.000.000 pages. Any ideas about what could cause the boost and the top positioning for that pages?

]]> By: Hobo SEO http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-603 Hobo SEO Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:59:09 +0000 http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-603 There might be an optimal density based on 100 different factors, meaning it would be virtually impossible to find. :) I certainly don't worry about it. There might be an optimal density based on 100 different factors, meaning it would be virtually impossible to find. :)

I certainly don’t worry about it.

]]> By: Shell Harris http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-604 Shell Harris Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:22:53 +0000 http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-604 I don't believe the domain name is that important for the sake of keywords. I do believe it is important for external linking. If the keyword is built into your domain name and a site links to you with just your URL then you have scored a keyword rich link without extra effort, which can help. Overall I wouldn't make that a priority with my domain name. Short and direct is better than long and descriptive. I don’t believe the domain name is that important for the sake of keywords. I do believe it is important for external linking. If the keyword is built into your domain name and a site links to you with just your URL then you have scored a keyword rich link without extra effort, which can help.

Overall I wouldn’t make that a priority with my domain name. Short and direct is better than long and descriptive.

]]> By: john haris http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-606 john haris Wed, 04 Apr 2007 07:09:13 +0000 http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-606 Notice that the 3rd of the sites have the keyword in their domain name! I think that is a factor in ranking. also link popularity. if your site has the keyword in the domain name. and you have high link popularity I think you can get a good ranking even if that page doesn't have any of the keywords in the page content! Notice that the 3rd of the sites have the keyword in their domain name! I think that is a factor in ranking. also link popularity. if your site has the keyword in the domain name. and you have high link popularity I think you can get a good ranking even if that page doesn’t have any of the keywords in the page content!

]]> By: Shell Harris http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-607 Shell Harris Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:48:09 +0000 http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-607 Great thoughts, Nathania! On-page factors are very important as well as inbound links and, in my opinion, often more important that keyword density. My point is this: focusing too much on keyword density and not on quality, persuasive, copywriting is not a wise decision. Too often I see spammy content and know that it isn't helping SEO, in fact it is discouraging possible sales. I used 'bonsai trees' to illustrate that point, not to make a generalization. I stand by my assertion that there is not an optimal keyword density and this one example supports it. To many factors are in play for there to be an optimal keyword density. Of course you always should consider <a href="http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/latent-semantic-indexing-lsi-and-seo/">Latent Semantic Indexing</a> (LSI) which contributes to the page's rank without keyword stuffing. <a href="http://www.knowledgesearch.org/lsi/lsa_definition.htm" target="_blank">Definition of Latent Semantic Indexing</a> Thanks for the comment. Great thoughts, Nathania!
On-page factors are very important as well as inbound links and, in my opinion, often more important that keyword density. My point is this: focusing too much on keyword density and not on quality, persuasive, copywriting is not a wise decision. Too often I see spammy content and know that it isn’t helping SEO, in fact it is discouraging possible sales.

I used ‘bonsai trees’ to illustrate that point, not to make a generalization. I stand by my assertion that there is not an optimal keyword density and this one example supports it. To many factors are in play for there to be an optimal keyword density.

Of course you always should consider Latent Semantic Indexing (LSI) which contributes to the page’s rank without keyword stuffing. Definition of Latent Semantic Indexing

Thanks for the comment.

]]> By: Nathania Johnson http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-605 Nathania Johnson Tue, 03 Apr 2007 01:39:08 +0000 http://www.bigoakinc.com/blog/keyword-density-myth/#comment-605 I'll have to respectfully disagree. While Keyword Density (KWD) may not be an important factor for 'bonsai trees', it could be an important factor in another search. Many times, the top ten results will have a basic range for KWD - and you want to try and match the site you're working on for that percentage. You want to do the same though, for Title Tags (and Title KWD), Meta Tags, Anchor KWD, semantics, inbound links, etc. The goal is to find out what's ranking well for the key phrase. Generalizations are "out" when it comes to organic SEO. I’ll have to respectfully disagree. While Keyword Density (KWD) may not be an important factor for ‘bonsai trees’, it could be an important factor in another search.

Many times, the top ten results will have a basic range for KWD – and you want to try and match the site you’re working on for that percentage. You want to do the same though, for Title Tags (and Title KWD), Meta Tags, Anchor KWD, semantics, inbound links, etc.

The goal is to find out what’s ranking well for the key phrase. Generalizations are “out” when it comes to organic SEO.

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